Monday, December 1, 2008

One Time Wood Protector Discussion


I have personally used and tested One TIME Wood Protector, as well as talking to many other clients across the country who have used it for a few years. I believe this is the best choice for "headache free deck and log home care."

I have evaluated and tested many many deck and log care products both as a former contractor and as a technical coatings consultant. One TIME Wood Protector is the closest to "the perfect product" for most homeowners. The biggest frustration and an environmental disaster are the products that lead to eventual stripping and sanding. Most "acrylic stains" eventually fail, and build up color, but are very difficult to strip, yet they are continually sold. I just think the majority of acrylics being touted are one of the biggest problems with deck care, and log homes. I, like everyone else would love to find a good acrylic, but we are just not there yet with the technology. We have found only one long-lasting translucent acrylic among all we have tested. The majority of acrylics available in the Warehouse and Depot type stores have led to many, many preventable failures among the clients we consult with across the country.

Most traditional oil based stains contain mildew-feeding linseed oil, and last only a year or two. Many products are highly advertised with false longevity claims. Frequent maintenance coats of most oil based stains generally lead to a darkening over time, and eventual stripping. Many deck and log care product reviews or comparisons rate products in a laboratory setting, and fail to consider the beauty of the wood, and real world circumstances. Most deck staining products we see advertised and endorsed carry false claims with respect to longevity. They fail to account for the frequent maintenance required.

Bottom line, I just think the One TIME does what it says: wood is protected from mildew and moisture for several years, and we can easily refresh color whenever we desire without ever stripping or even heavy chemical cleaning. I describe it as "non-problematic", unlike most other choices out there. I hope this helps.

Doug

One TIME cures in sunlight, so if we have a screened-in deck, we would need to look at another option.

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9 comments:

pat said...

What is yuor advice on how to strip the old deck stain off before applying one time - some articles i have read state the prodcit can leave a tacky surface - yuor thoughts

PaintSource said...

You need to strip any previous failed product from the wood to use the One TIME. The only cause of tackiness would be where the One TIME is applied over an existing coating, or it was not exposed to sunlight to cure. The One TIME is a great product for long lasting easy maintenance deck care.

You can use any good deck stripper (usually sodium hydroxide based). Some Acrylic deck products are more difficult to strip, and can sometimes create the need for sanding.

You must soften or loosen the stain with a deck stripper. There are several effective strippers to choose from, depending on whether the stain was oil based or water based. The waterbased will be pretty stubborn, and will require some scrubbing as well. Once the stain is softened or loosened, it can be efficiently rinsed with a pressure washer. Follow with a wood brightener to neutralize. Below is a bit more info on deck stripping.

It is actually easier to strip on an overcast day so the stripper does not dry out, as the stripper works best the longer it can lay wet on the surface.

After stripping, certainly consider One Time wood Protector for your project.

I want to emphasize again that even though a previous sealer may have worn away and appear to be gone, it is important to use a chemical deck stripper to remove all traces of a previous product. As we discussed, aggressive sanding may do the trick, but I could not tell you for sure on any particular project.

Many stain strippers are similar in chemical make-up. This is not like furniture stripper. It is a water rinsable product applied by garden sprayer and scrubbed a little. Below is some information to consider. The stripper and brightener we feature are premium products, but they are fairly common chemistry that may be available to you locally. You will want to acquire a sample of the stripper and brightener you choose and test an area. (consider Cabots Stripper and Brightener, or Flood Stripper followed by a brightener (oxalic acid). Below is information on the brand we carry.

DEFY Stain Stripper could be used where a previous sealer was used on the wood.

Most stain stripper will cover 100-150 square feet per gallon. Lightly dampen surfaces to be stripped to avoid excessive grain raising. Apply a generous and uniform coat of stain stripper with a polyester brush, roller or pump-up hand sprayer. Allow Stripper to remain wet on surface for 15-20 minutes (keep re-applying Stripper so area does not dry out). Make sure to allow enough time for product to work. When the finish begins to lift from the wood’s surface, scrub it with a stiff bristle brush in the direction of the wood grain. After scrubbing, rinse with large amounts of water in the direction of the wood grain. If stubborn areas remain, repeat the application in those areas.
After rinsing you should neutralize and brighten the wood with Wood Brightener.

If wood is fuzzed after stripping , consider Dust-Free Deck Sanding

Allow wood to dry 2-3 days before applying the finish.

Other possible strippers to consider:

Bio-Wash Stripex (800) 858-5011;
Cabot Problem-Solver Wood Stripper;
Coronado Maxum-Prep Deck & Wood Stripper, (800) 883-4193;
Flood Company Power Lift One Step Stripper, (800) 321-3444;
Every stripper manufacturer also makes a deck brightener. After brightening, wait until the deck is perfectly dry (usually 3 days) before staining. Look for oxalic acid on the Brightener ingredients.

janie.connelly said...

From everything I've heard and read about stains vs wood proctectors, etc. I have concluded that I am going to use One Time on my deck. It is not a new deck but it is clean (pressure-washed), rough lumber (BC Fir I believe) that has never been stained. The only question I have at this point is how effective the product will be in the Canadian climate. I live in eastern Ontario near the US border.

nola2nooga said...

Last year 2009 I finally had my 1000sq ft. deck built and went on the deck sealer quest. I only wish I would had done it prior to having the deck built, then I would have sealed all 4 sides of the boards. (talk about ocd) I used ONETIME deck sealer in Natural, I have a western facing deck and a dark shade would be HOT HOT HOT. I rolled it on, and used a paint brush on a stick to get between the boards (treated pine) I LOVE IT! It looks great! Get plastic sliders for under your furniture. I do have an older Doberman with Long toenails and on the stairs there are a few scratches, all I do is take a rag and give it a little touch up on a sunny day. this is going on year 2 and the water beads up. If you put potted plants on your deck, put little blocks of wood underneath to allow air to circulate. I didn't and I am going to go figure out what to do do remove this slight discoloration. It isn't too bad though. I live in Chattanooga TN You can purchase it at Floyds Hardware Soddy Daisy TN

PaintSource said...

Sorry for the late reply. One TIME wood is proving to be a product of choice from Canada all the way down to Caribbean islands. Wood is protected as the One TIME sun-cures into the wood. Maintenance is easy and low chemistry. Simply wash and reapply when you want to refresh color.

Phil Golzer said...

I have been a residential, commercial, painter stainer for over 25 years. I know and do all safty precautions. But, let me tell the bad side of one time stain. It can and does cause burns. Recently, I used one time on a deck. Used rubber gloves on my hands, wore a spray suit, to ensure NONE touched my skin. I still ended up with 3rd degree burns on hands ,arms, face, neck,and legs. Spent 4 days in hospital. The fumes seem to cause the reaction according to the Doctors. There is no warning about that on the packaging. I will never use it again. Nor will I recommend it. This product may be easy to use but it is unsafe. That is why they will not tell what is actually in it.

Michael Smith said...

Same here, covered and wore goggles though severe allergic reaction caused severe facial burning on my face around goggle area and a little on my arm below gloves and where not covered by my shirt. Something in this is dangerous to the skin.

Unknown said...

I was tired of having to strip and re-stain my deck every two years. In researching on the internet, I came across this "ONETIME® Wood Protector" product with their gurantee of 7 years. (I was skeptical, but hoped it would last longer then two years)
I performed a thorough preparation of the deck first washing my ceder deck, then applying chemical stripper, brightener and belt sanding. The ceder deck boards look like new wood, even though the deck is ~ 10 years old.
The instructions states that application won't leave lap marks. Unfortunately, I ran out and the store had no stain in stock, so I had to order from "ONETIME® Wood Protector" factory. They had none on hand and I had to wait until they made another batch. Needless-to-say it took over a week before I could finish staining my deck. They LIED About the lap marks! It looks terrible!
I had applied this stain last summer(2015) and by the spring of 2016 after going through one winter in northern Idaho, the deck looks like Hell! The stain is pealing, lifting off the deck! It looks like plastic coating. When I spoke with the "ONETIME® Wood Protector" support, they requested pictures. After sending them the pictures all they were willing to do was to blame me for not preparing the deck properly.
So "ONETIME® Wood Protector" mfr blatantly uses deceptions, lies and false advertising! And, at ~$90 a gallon, the most expensive stain I could find! SO BUYER BE WARE, DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE I MADE. AVOID WASTING YOUR TIME AND MONEY ON THIS YUK OF A PRODUCT AND ON A COMPANY THAT WON'T STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT OR THEIR ADVERTISING!!!!

Josue Barreto said...

I'm a general contractor in Puerto Rico, it is a great product but I can't use it. 2 of my employees have had to go to the hospital with several burns. All safety equipment was used. It's a danger use product to use, even with safety equipment.